Patients Against Tumblers

[leftofcenter]

As a patient, I find the cost of the medicine so high already that I find myself very disturbed of the new trend (especially at Harborside , but they are definately not alone in this new trend) and the fact that especially Harborside again only offers the patients one type of medicine and that being hydroweed.

Why cant a patient make their own decision whether they want chemical weed with pesticides especially sulfur burning ect. to keep the molds from occurring since they are grown over water and many bugs are attracted. Yet patients leave thier health in trust and then does anyone know what has been sprayed on our leaves that are used for the edibles we digest. Sure they say they have organic fertilizers and sprays for hydro weed, but it depends on the growers conscience whether they are used since they cost more and are not as effective.

SO WHY WONT HARBORSIDE OFFER SOIL ORGANIC MEDICINES? Sorry got sidetracked back to PATIENTS AGAINST TUMBLERS! Does anyone else feel they are ALREADY PAYING ENOUGH for our medicine and are you aware that when you are buying keef, you are supporting a wrong practice that is done for sheer greed? When I purchase a nice smelling and top of the line product, do I not own the bud in its entirety? Where does the grower get the right to tumble off all the crystals off my premium bud I just paid dearly for? This is happening patients and all you need to do is look at your next medicene and almost surely all the crystals are going to be missing and they want you to purchase this as keef so now you have paid double ,agreed, no I meant to say greed.

When cold water hash is made, they use leftover cuttings or trim that would be thrown away anyway so that is fine. But how dare you touch my bud! Really folks, we need to question this practice and refuse to but tumbled weed if their is any or at least have a word with management, then if we quit purchasing the keef separately, this would go away back where it came from! REJECT AND SPEAK UP! Also tell Harborside you have the right to have healthier organic soil medicine and if they tell you it is less potent, then let us pick the competition and see how the THC contents really do compare.

[keyplay]

They can do anything they want to it until you buy it. I think you are exaggerating about their practiices. All bud at Harborside is sold on consignment if its good enough to make the cut. Growers usually use trim and fan leaves for kief and hash, not the clubs. And Harborside started doing testing for THC, molds, and other unhealthy things....so they say.
Also, its unfair to say all bud being sold there is beaster bud.
I am not favorable to them and I have found my own gear is so much better. Trying a strain from a club in order to decide if growing it is worthwhile is useless.
I grow organic and take pains to grow it right-at much expense. I would think finding someone who is a good grower and developong a rapport-maybe asking him or her to grow you a particular strain. If its broke or can be better, you should fix it or give yourself other options.

[leftofcenter]

keyplay, I also have my own strain and have a very large mother. Prior to this I was paying $300 dollars a week for my medicene which is close to $1200 dollars a month! I have numberous injuries leaving me disabled now.If you do not believe me I would be glad to compare if you want to challenge and how much my weed helps before the mess of pills help. Back to tumblers. You are wrong about the origin of keef and the origin of hash my friend and as a supposed experienced grower , I think you would know what I am about to explain. First before you say this is not happenning to you, go pick up anything from a gram of weed to a ounce or more even, and you wont even need a microscope to see that each bud has been tumbled and if you just cannot believe what your naked eyes are telling your experienced self, then take it home and then report back you findings after your scope adventure.Hash is made from all the leftover trim which is extracted by ice and cold water where it freezes the triclones off together and pressed till all moisture is out of the beautiful ball of pure triclones. On the other statement that you can collect the keef from trimmings, I would love to watch you try. It is not the clubs who are doing the tumbling, but to me they should bann the sell of it and stay with the honest approach that patients definately paid a very high price for thier medicene already (WHICH NEVER LAST VERY LONG) and the truth be told, by right they should not have to pay double by having to purchase the same bud and the crystals grown on it. You sound like you might be guilty of this practice yourself. Hope I am wrong. But the clubs can eyeball easily the buds coming in for sale by vendors and if they actually turned them away to teach them a lesson would be a righteous and caring act on thier PATIENTS behalf. You truely do not actually believe it is right for vendors to make even more money by stripping what you paid for already and not feel the greed behind such a practice, and besides most patients do not have a home let alone the equipment, electricity and opporunity to grow thier own! Would it be alright if your next doctors presctiption went tnru a pharmacy who cut your pills in half so they could make more, of course not! As far as good old soil organic vs hydro chemical weed grown over water, I would like to challenge Harborside to do a thc content on my crop grown indoors with no bugs, no mold and natural. Why does Harborside only offer hydro chemical weed without even an explanation to why there is nothing organic. Patients should rebell against these two practices in all honesty. I could not live with myself if I tummbled my weed. But that is just me. How does everyone else feel?

[leftofcenter]

keyplay, I also have my own strain and have a very large mother. Prior to this I was paying $300 dollars a week for my medicene which is close to $1200 dollars a month! I have numberous injuries leaving me disabled now.If you do not believe me I would be glad to compare if you want to challenge and how much my weed helps before the mess of pills help. Back to tumblers. You are wrong about the origin of keef and the origin of hash my friend and as a supposed experienced grower , I think you would know what I am about to explain. First before you say this is not happenning to you, go pick up anything from a gram of weed to a ounce or more even, and you wont even need a microscope to see that each bud has been tumbled and if you just cannot believe what your naked eyes are telling your experienced self, then take it home and then report back you findings after your scope adventure.Hash is made from all the leftover trim which is extracted by ice and cold water where it freezes the triclones off together and pressed till all moisture is out of the beautiful ball of pure triclones. On the other statement that you can collect the keef from trimmings, I would love to watch you try. It is not the clubs who are doing the tumbling, but to me they should bann the sell of it and stay with the honest approach that patients definately paid a very high price for thier medicene already (WHICH NEVER LAST VERY LONG) and the truth be told, by right they should not have to pay double by having to purchase the same bud and the crystals grown on it. You sound like you might be guilty of this practice yourself. Hope I am wrong. But the clubs can eyeball easily the buds coming in for sale by vendors and if they actually turned them away to teach them a lesson would be a righteous and caring act on thier PATIENTS behalf. You truely do not actually believe it is right for vendors to make even more money by stripping what you paid for already and not feel the greed behind such a practice, and besides most patients do not have a home let alone the equipment, electricity and opporunity to grow thier own! Would it be alright if your next doctors presctiption went tnru a pharmacy who cut your pills in half so they could make more, of course not! As far as good old soil organic vs hydro chemical weed grown over water, I would like to challenge Harborside to do a thc content on my crop grown indoors with no bugs, no mold and natural. Why does Harborside only offer hydro chemical weed without even an explanation to why there is nothing organic. Patients should rebell against these two practices in all honesty. I could not live with myself if I tummbled my weed. But that is just me. How does everyone else feel?

[kgb420]

Sometimes you can tell if its been in a tumbler because the buds look beat up and they let it dry out more than normal so the crystals break off and don't stick to the bud.
They used to give the tumbleweed in compassion bags at some dispensaries.
I guess with the economy so poor they need to milk it to make it.

[keyplay]

Well, darn it! Ya learn something new everyday. Of course, I don't tumble my flowers. That is a sin!
If you guys want medicine that looks like this or better in about 30 or 40 days...give me a PM shout.

[keyplay]

I do a lot of kief runs using trim bud trim...fan and lower leaves are useless. I beg to differ on some of your comments, but I know you're a good person and some of the shit people pull is really shameless. So much greed! Maybe we can compare notes on strains. I'm working with a Crimea Blue which is supposed to be excellent pain and comfort medicine.
Here's some kief pics I took from sugar trim using an O'Kief tumbler. I also Bake alot.

[minimoe]

What if patients just didn't buy tumbled weed, I mean it's obvious, right? In most cases the dispensary does it if the grower doesn't. That's just greed. Tell the guy at the counter to keep it. You tumbled it you smoke it.

Then grow your hemp seed everywhere.

[Dopey Taylor]

I want the trichomes on my $60 eights. Yup,it's too easy to spot to put up with.

[leftofcenter]

This just in. Harborside continues to tumble and persists with selling keif.